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  1. Koala Bear: Boaters, Anglers, and Recreational Users

    We as boaters, anglers, and recreational users do not support the gas industry and feel they should not get their permit. There are multiple reasons why we made this decision. The first reason why the gas industry should not get their permit is because of the effects it will have on the boater and anglers. The gas industries cut down trees to acquire gasoline that is available for use. The surplus of trees that protect the stream get destroyed leading to a bunch of organisms dying. Without the trees protecting the river, the water temperature increases because of the limited amount of shade. The organisms will eventually get stressed due to the higher temperatures and started to die out. Therefore, the boaters and anglers will not have any organisms to catch and are unable to make a profit.

    The second reason why we are not supporting the gas industry is because of the effects it will have on recreational users. The gas industries are also cutting down trees in very populated areas. Citizens go to these areas to hike and enjoy the beautiful scenery. The breath-taking forest that was once available for recreational users will never be seen again. In conclusion, we do not want to give the gas industry their permit because the boaters, anglers, and recreational users will not be able to do what we love the most.

    • We, at Fish Lovers and Rec. agree with your statement above. We agree with the fact that all of the area surrounding the park will be negatively effected. We also agree with the fact that the wild life living in this park, as well as the wonderful scenery around the park, is beautiful and does not need any further human interaction.

    • Your logic for not allowing a permit for drilling is mediocre. Yes, cutting down trees will negatively change the ecosystem near the stream. But you are only accounting for the brook trout because they are less tolerant to water quality. Your essay needs more information about other species that will be affected and why.
      -Anglers United

      • Dear Koala Bears,
        I agree with you that cutting down trees can negatively affect streams and rivers, as well as land too. Gas companies do have a tendency to do this because they need to clear area for their drilling sites. The lack of shade can result in higher water temperatures, but I think that you should specify what type of organisms it will affect. Higher water temperatures will not affect every single organism in the stream, just like Anglers United indicated.
        Also, I think you should specify that you are talking about fracking and the Marcellus Shale drilling. You generally mention “gas companies”, and I think that this is too broad of a title.
        Other than that, great outlook!
        PA Hunter,
        Ronald Rubarb

    • Hello Koala Bears! Like some of the other comments you’ve received I’d like to talk about the organisms that are endangered when water is warmed. Like the others have stated, not every organism dies. In fact, warm water can cause some organisms to grow! Most oftenly these organisms aren’t wanted and a danger to the stream.
      The second point I wanted to make was what you said about trees being cut down in very populated areas. It’s true that trees are cut down, but entire forests are not uprooted.
      I think you did well making your points. Good job guys!
      Ima Fisher

  2. Ima Fisher
    As an avid outdoorswoman I enjoy the beauty of nature. I often take long walks in the woods to listen to the birds and wildlife. On weekends I love to fish with my three boys. However, something strange has come to our attention. A hydraulic fracing site moved in upstream from the river we fish in. Concerned, I began to study hydraulic fracing, mainly to understand what dangers it posed to the water and animals in the forest.

    Studies at Cornell University have shown that animals exposed to wastewater of an alleged illegal dumpsite experienced death or the inability to reproduce the following spring. The National Wildlife Federation stated that toxic chemicals can infiltrate and contaminate habitats, waterways, and drinking water, which is dangerous for both the humans and animals that rely on these areas. In rare cases the natural gas that is being extracted from the ground could cross a natural aquifers and water tables.

    Along with the dangers associated with the chemicals, spilled drilling fluids can be very dangerous to water dependent animals. Water is also affected when it is taken away from wells and streams to perform the drilling operations. Several million gallons of water are used for fracing. This can leave insufficient water supplies which would be catastrophic to the fish in river.

    Air quality can also be affected when it comes to fracing. Natural gas, if it were to replace fossil fuels, would actually improve air quality, which is a bonus to the risks. Air quality is very important because of how much we depend upon clean air. Improved air quality would not only benefit humans, but all animals. Sadly, the extraction process can created air quality problems. Emissions can cause increased ozone and smog levels.

    The construction of roads can destroy and fragment habitats. Thousands of acres of forests lead to reduced habitats. Animals suffer because of the habitats that they lose. This deforestation affects rural communities and also America’s beautiful landscape. Increased traffic on back roads can lead to more animals that are killed or wounded by cars.

    After researching the pitfalls of fracing I was frightened for what would happen to the land that my family and I loved, but everything I read about only occurs when rules are not listened to. There are many mandates and laws that force companies to clean their wastewater and prevent habitat destruction. They are held responsible for restoring the area to its natural beauty once they are gone. If a company prevents accidents and spills the land and animals around the fracing site can be protected and safe. They would be unharmed.

    Finishing my research I have decided that fracing is alright in my area. If we can develop a new energy source that is less polluting than fossil fuels we should try. As long as the companies listen to the laws, and there are organizations to enforce the rules upon those companies who don’t, my family and I should be able to fish for many years to come.

    • We the koala bears agree with this statement because we agree fracking is ok in some areas but in others like recreational places will destroy the tourism coming there. Also we agree with the idea that it will destroy the habitats that animals live in as well. But it is up to the company to decide whether or not they are able to use this specific location. However the other half is up to us because we are the people using the land. So it can go both ways. But overall, we agree with this statement and agree that it is accurate.

      • we the BEN Corporation, also agree with your blog. it is dangerous for aquatic life and caution should be taken before fracking has begun. also, this fracking industry should have notified the surrounding community to notify them. In addition, the fracking industry should have checked the water for aquatic life to save the fish. we enjoyed your article!
        Good job Ima Fish!

    • Hello Ima Fisher, I agree with in many areas here. But up in Bradford County where the gas is booming it’s not alright. We have had a spill in one of our creeks where they couldn’t stock fish in it because of the oil and gas. They are also extracting millions of gallons of water from the creeks. People with wells have had tons of problems with their wells to the point in which the gas company had to supply them with water. Everyone’s doing it for the money, but they need to be thinking of the recreation and the habitat of the animals. We need to save our water ways before it’s too late. With my research we will not have streams with fish to fish in many years.
      Sincerely, Justin Case

      • Justin Case,
        I’ve never been to the area that you’re describing, but I did read up on what you reported! I read about the tanker truck that was vandalized and caused damage to the surrounding area. That’s a very sad case.
        However, in my blog, I stated that I would only support the drilling if the companies worked to obey the regulations and to avoid these such problems. I understand that there are accidents, and that’s acceptable as long as the companies work hard to fix the mistake. Thank you for commenting on my blog!

        Ima Fisher

        • Hi Everyone-I really appreciate how you each conducted some research to try to find the best available information to make a decision as to whether shale gas development is appropriate. In general I think if the regulations are followed then the potential benefits of gas development can be realized, such as a cleaner burning fuel that improves air quality. For example in 2012 the carbon dioxide emissions in the US were recorded to be at a 20 year low due in part to replacing coal with natural gas for power generation. But we need to be really careful about where these well pads go to make sure wetlands aren’t impacted and that runoff from the wells doesn’t cause erosion and sedimentation. Nice work on coming up with informed opinions!
          Dave Yoxtheimer

  3. Hunting is just not the same these days! I wake up in the wee hours of the morning to venture out in hopes of having a quiet, enjoyable hunting experience. Instead, as I’m relaxing on my tree stand, the sounds of the birds chirping and the ruffling of the leaves are not the only noises that fill my ears. A fellow Pennsylvania hunter knows exactly what I am describing. For an article in the New York Times on the drilling for Marcellus shale and its effects on hunting, Bob Volkmar was interviewed and his question is the same one I ask myself when I’m out in the woods. Bob asked, “Who wants to go into their deer stand in the predawn darkness and listen to a compressor station?” The abrupt noises are not the only disturbances caused by the drilling for Marcellus Shale for hunters of Pennsylvania.

    The trees are not as bountiful as they used to be. So many different trees, such as aspen, maple, and cherry, have been mercilessly chopped down in order to create room for drilling sites. Where are the deer and other animals going to go when all the trees chopped down for this Marcellus Shale drilling? Animals do not want to live in an area that doesn’t possess any trees. Hunting will soon not be a sport, but a rarity.

    Like I said, hunting just is not the same as it used to be. In an area of the State Game Lands, nine wells have already sprung up in Potter County, Pennsylvania. I don’t want to be hunting for wells! I want to be stalking deer and turkeys, not wells that are hunting for natural gas. The land and area I used to have in order to hunt have been rudely taken away from me and other hunters, as well.

    Now, I understand all this drilling business is supposed to help out the economy and provide more fuel for future generations. But the government can take its drilling elsewhere. They can take their noisy, land ruining trucks and drills to an area that is not flourishing in wildlife that some people, such as me, enjoy. No animal wants to live in a forest whose trees are being depleted. No animal wants to live in an area that is being overrun by huge trucks with their tires ripping up the forest floor and land. No animal wants to share its home with a well drilling for natural gas. The animal populations are going to keep declining if their homes keep being disturbed by monstrous trucks and wells. The enjoyment of hunting is going to keep declining for me if the availability of animals to hunt disappears.

    Hunting might seem like just a silly sport to some people, like those city slickers who don’t even know what a rifle is. To me, it is a way of life. It is a tradition that has been alive in my family for generations. I am not going to stop doing the thing I love because of some Marcellus Shale drillers who think they can just mosey on into the forest. I am going to continue hunting until the last deer is killed on Earth. I pray that the termination of that last deer’s life will not be a result of Marcellus Shale drilling sites.

    Pennsylvania Hunter,
    Ronald Rubarb

    • We agree for the most part. Your points about deer were pretty valid. Some people argue that Pennsylvania’s deer population is too high and they often cause accidents. But when their habitats and their homes are being destryoed, where are they supposed to go? This issue doesn’t necessarily revolve around just hunting and that’s not the main issue and I’m not sure why you want to kill every deer on the Earth because that’s just weird, but it is a major issue. Many animals are affected by fracking and drilling and when they have no where to go, it directly affects humans, as well. They dart into the streets and people’s yards and it’s not safe. If something leaks and gets into a waterway, it could possibly harm the fish and other aquatic creatures and their habitats as well. In addition, if trees near a stream are cut down, its riparian zone would be ruined and riparian zones are crucial to the health of a stream. This was pretty good but hunting isn’t the only issue, there are other, more important issues.

      • Dear; AJSN
        Deer do not run in the middle of towns. The deer population is really low. When my dad was a kid they would see 100’s of deer now we are lucky to see 10. When they are pushed out of an area they move to another area up into another wood lot. They don’t run to people streets or yards.
        PA Hunter,
        Mike Vick

        • to Mike Vick
          you seem like a very smart hunter and your assumption is very correct. deer do not go run around where they want they want to get comfortable and these wells are not scaring deer away unless we destroy their home then thats when they leave

      • To Mr. AJSN
        I don’t agree with what your theory is but many people like to go out in the woods and go hunting. This expresses them and nature is all about life. I have been taking an English class in 11th grade and what we have learned that transcendentalism is about nature and that’s where people go to find their inner person and to relax. So hunting around here is our inner self.

    • Dear; Ronald Rubarb
      I agree with your statements. I am a big hunter too. I only hunt big buck & they need room. Big bucks don’t want to be near any gas activity. Also the gas wells have affected our beautiful woods. They have affected it by putting enormously wide pipelines everywhere. The pipelines are about 150 feet wide. The pipe is only about 1.5 feet wide so they don’t need 150 feet wide clearing for the pipe. Also they check the pipelines constantly so that would mess with your deer. Especially the mature buck because they don’t like any human activity. When they feel pressure they leave the area completely. Also when I’m hunting I like to stay relaxed. I want to be able to take a nap if I want to take a nap. When I hear the noises from the gas pad I can’t take a nap. Also I’ve noticed the turkeys stay clear from the pads too. But they seem not to mind the pipelines unlike deer. The only good thing about the gas well is that the pipelines give the deer more food sources.
      PA Hunter,
      Mike Vick

      • Dear ASJN,
        Thank you for your comments. I would just like to clarify that I do not want to kill every deer on Earth. I just enjoy hunting, and what I meant to say is that I am going to keep hunting until there are no more deer to hunt. Also, I’m not sure if I agree with you about deer darting out into people’s streets and yards when their habitats are destroyed. As Mike Vick explained, they usually go to other wooded areas. Nevertheless, thank you for your comments.

        Dear Mike Vick,
        It’s so cool that there is another hunter out there who opposes the Marcellus Shale drilling. I think it is ruining the hunting atmosphere, and the deer’s habitats as well. I know what you mean when you say that you can’t truly relax when the drilling is going on only a couple hundred yards away from your hunting site. Hunting is just not the same anymore! I do like how you pointed out a positive aspect of drilling on hunting in that it gives the deer more food sources. But that’s about it. Thank you for your great comments!

        PA Hunter,
        Ronald Rubarb

        • Hunters-
          I appreciate that the hunting experience can be altered by noise pollution are well pads. You could flesh out your positions by taking a step back and looking at the system in which hunting is occuring. Think about all the infastructure and logistics when it comes to making a well pad. (e.g. several acres cleared, leveled and layered with gravel, water/flow back pond creation, well drilling, roads built to the site, heavy traffic during pad construction and drilling, building connections to pipelines and possibly new pipelines, well pad site reclamation – likely reseeding with non-native grasses, etc) Are there other areas of concern about the animals that you hunt or about the ecosystem upon which they rely? Can you widen your scope when it comes to concerns about habitat destruction beyond deer? Are you concerned about other organisms’ habitats when it comes to altering the landscape? In what instances might the well and infastructure influence game populations and habitats? Are habitat specialists (e.g. forest interior obligate organisms) or generalists (like deer) most likely to be influenced by the proposed project? Are non-game organisms are consideration in your arguments about deer and hunting? Is there any reason that they should be?

          • dear Mary Walsh,
            these (deer) and other animals and species have been here way longer than these gas wells. so these deer are very important to me and my fellow hunters. so when these gas well truck drivers come they drive all over the place, hit deer on the roads, they destroy all the wildlife and habitats for these creatures. i’m not disagreeing with you but these deer have great value to us since the time of early settlers and now. they didn’t have gas wells back in the day, so they respected deer way more and i think we should have that sentimental value back but we can’t with the gas industry. please comment back…..

    • We at Anglers United agree that hunting is not a silly sport Ronald Rubarb. But you should also mention that hunting is not just a recreational sport, but an effective way to balance out populations in an ecosystem. We agree that drilling sites would most definitely ruin the sport of hunting.

      -Anglers United

    • Dear Ronald,
      You seem very passionate about your way of life! I also found in my research that animals are displaced when their habitats are disturbed by roads and well sites. I think what we have to keep in mind is that not all companies treat the widlife in extreme ways. Many take only what they need and restore the land once it has been used. I myself have seen many well sites that were very beautifully restored. In fact, there were deer eating there!

      Please don’t get me wrong, I love being outdoors as much as you and everyone else here. But I think we have to keep the things that I mentioned in mind. Thanks for a compelling blog, Ronald!

      Ima Fisher

  4. Fish Lovers and Rec.
    The Problem with Fracking by Water

    We, at Fish Lovers and Rec., are strongly concerned with the idea of hydraulic fracturing on the border of Pine Creek Gorge. We feel that hydraulic fracturing would do dertrimental damage to the area. It would hurt our income due to the fact that fishing is our jobs. If the fracking company were to go through with fracking on the farm by our stream, the water in our creek would quickly become polluted. If this were to happen, the water would remain polluted for awhile, as the closest water treatment plant is over 20 miles away!

    Trout and bass are the types of fish that we fish for, and these are also the types of fish that would be the most affected by the pollution. Trout and bass are not pollution- tolerant species, and therefore, they would die off quickly. If the trout and bass in our stream were to die off, we would not be able to fish here anymore, therefore losing our jobs, and not being able to feed our families and children. Think of the children!!!

    Also, the fracking will take away the beauty of the landscape. This place known as the “Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania” is a place where people go to see the wonderful trees, and mountains. This is a place where people go to get away from the industrialzation taking over America. Fracking will eliminate this element of beauty from the Gorge.

    • We, as the Koala Bear Group, agree with multiple statements that you have made. We agree that fracking will cause pollution in our streams, leading to a loss of wildlife. Therefore, jobs would become very scarce in the fishing inudstry and many people will not be able to support their families. We also agree that the fracking industry will take away what we love the most, the beautiful landscapes of Pennsylvania.

      • We as Earth Children, agree with your idea about fracking. It is horrible for streams and their riparian zones. Not only that, but it is degrading the forests around the fracking area. We are taking a stand against this action of fracking because it ruins the forest which is the home of many organisms. 38,000-90,000 acres of forest are being cleared to be used for Marecellus Shale wells. Another 60,000-150,000 acres are lost for usage of new pipelines. Although the fracking is not on state forest land, it is impacting it by the pounding of the trucks on the soil, and the gases that are being released. There are people that rely on the forests, and the wild life that live there just as you rely on the streams and their organisms. They need to hunt for deer just as you fish for trout. It pays the bills and many enjoy the fresh air.

        • dear, earth children
          i live in the middle of the gas boom and i have seen hundreds of wells. i am a huge turkey and deer hunter and i see more deer grazing the fresh grass on a pad and turkeys strutting on the pipelines. the gas has created new habitat and food for animals. since the gas has been here not alot of water occurences have been.
          sincerely, justin case

    • Hello! I believe that of all the groups of people affected by the drilling processes, the recreational anglers and hunters may be affected most severely. It is a process that has the potential to destroy the habitats that you use most frequently. The cultural beauty of the area you live in was a good point to bring up. It is one that is not often considered. Such a tourist attraction can not afford to be destroyed. However, I do believe that with proper regulations the natural gas drillers and you recreational anglers and hunters can coincide with limited interference. Great posting!

      Ringo Star, Local Restaurant Owner

    • Fracing companies have regulations to follow to avoid contamination of streams. They don’t dispose of the waste into the stream. In rare cases there are accidents that can cause river pollution. I promise you that I am thinking of your children.

      There are areas where companies could never get a permit to drill, such as national parks or such areas as the “Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania”.

      Ima Fisher

    • A lot of water is also used for drilling to occur, and this could also affect the fish in the river. Pollution would be a huge problem also, as you have mentioned. I do agree with what you are saying though. Drilling could be a problem if it is not watched carefully. It is normally not a huge problem though.

      Kerry Sheeva

  5. Anglers United

    On behalf of Anglers United, our position is against drilling a natural gas well on a former dairy farm in Lycoming County. We strongly suggest that DEP rejects the drilling permit due to the fact that drilling would negatively affect our local anglers, boaters, and recreational users. During the drilling process, nearby water would be contaminated and potentially decline the fish population, leaving decreased populations for anglers(E-Forum). Gas companies deplete our stream resources by extracting water from the stream and from groundwater. Canoers and Kayakers in the summer can not use the stream for recreational use because of the contamination from frack water. Another concern is if drilling took over, then fishers and boaters wouldn’t be able to contribute $3.4 billion like they do each year(Protecting).

    Although gas companies do their best to maintain the safety of the ecosystem in which they are drilling, accidents do happen. An example is the natural gas well that exploded in Northwest Pennsylvania in 2010 that resulted in a leak that was at least a million gallons of oil mixed with chemicals and water. The entire accident was mostly “swept under the rug”(Morrill). When accidents like this happen it contaminates the water and kills the fish. An example of contaminated water and fish depletion related to drilling is Dunkard Creek (Hopey). Once a thriving, ecologically diverse stream has recently lost all of its biodiversity. Dunkard Creek was tested and was found with high levels of TDS and chlorides, both linked to Marcellus Shale gas drilling. The most likely cause of this fish kill is illegal dumping of wastewater, or an accident involving wastewater. Other species that have experienced decreased populations due to drilling are the northern leopard frog, brook trout, and native mussels.

    The method to get natural gas involves using 10 billion gallons of water per year. Where are these gas companies getting this water? They are extracting water from aquifers and stream water, where we boat and fish. If we allow the drilling in this area our freshwater will be quickly depleted. Streams will soon be gone and so will our fishing, food, and fun. It is not right to deplete our water resource.

    The mass extraction of water from streams causes base flow to be reduced and in a sense alters the entire ecosystem. If the natural gas companies are extracting billions of gallons of water per year and our streams are being decreased, along with lakes and other tributaries, then fishermen will go elsewhere. Boaters and recreational users too. In a sense, local economies and Pennsylvania’s economy will suffer from drilling and boaters and fishers will not be able to make a living or enjoy the wildlife that surrounds the stream.

    “E-Forum:.” E-Forum:. N.p., n.d. Web. 04 Feb. 2013.

    Hopey, Don. “Sudden Death of Ecosystem Ravages Long Creek.” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. N.p., 20 Sept. 2009. Web. 08 Feb. 2013.

    “Protecting Pennsylvania’s Aquatic Resources.” Pennsylvania Fish & Boat Commission and Marcellus Shale:. N.p., n.d. Web. 7 Feb. 2013.

    Morrill, Micheal. “Daily Kos.” : Major Drilling Accident in NW PA. Â Media Banned from Site. Threats of Shooting, Arrest. N.p., 7 June 2010. Web. 08 Feb. 2013.

    • Don Hopey, I do think that you have a good understanding of the gas drilling. I do agree with you on when you asked where they get their water at. But the thing is if they get it from the creeks and streams, they are always being refilled and recharged. So that water will always be there from passing through water. And there has been a well that had exploded too as well by my house. Accidents do happen as you said they do. Sometimes you can fix them and sometimes you can’t. This will be fixed over time and will be revived by helpers that want it to be good and clean. This planet is made up of more than 70% than water. I don’t think that our water will go away anytime soon.
      CHS Fisher and Boater

      • CHS Fisher and Boater,
        Creeks and streams are not being continuously recharged and refilled. These gas companies are as well, depleting the aquifers so fast they don’t have the means of recharging and refilling.
        Your claims are completely unfounded and based on no factual evidence whatsoever.

        -Anglers United

  6. AJSN – Anglers, Boaters, and Recreational Users

    Our animal ecosystems, whether it is water or land, are being affected by fracking. I understand fracking does help us get natural gases, but it comes at a price. Is it really worth going through the trouble to hurt animals and people just for some gas? Fracking companies say that they aren’t hurting the environment; however, excess water that is contaminated with many chemicals. Once the workers plug up the hole where the pipes had been, everything is supposed to go back to “normal”: plants are supposed to start growing again and the wildlife willl return. Recreational users, like hunters, use the land to hunt animals, but disappear and so will the animals. The companies have to cut down trees to make more room for all the equipment. No game means no hunting, no hunting means no food or money for some. Hunting is a livelihood, just like being an angler. There’s always the likelihood that water being used could leak out and get into multiple bodies of water. The water that is used during fracking has many chemicals in it that is toxic for the environment. If this water was to get into the streams the fish would get sick and there would be a fish kill.

    We need to be more cautious with our valuable resource, water, for the water that is used in fracking has too many pollutants in it for anyone to use. The more we use hydraulic fracturing, the more wells will appear from starting from just a couple hundred to thousands. Harming the environment can harm ecosystems, the more we damage our hobbies and livelihood.

    • We, at Fish Lovers and Rec. strongly agree with your statement that the fracking companies are truly harming the wildlife in and around the area. What we have to realize is that the only reason these companies frack is for the money. The wild life we are most concerned about is the fish population, specificallly trout, and how fracking will effect their living conditions. Once the trout are effected, the whole ecosystem takes a turn for the worst. To conclude, we agree with all the points you made and we strongly support your view points.

    • dear ajsn, i agree strongly on what you are saying but i live in a an area with alot of gas. although there is alot of gas only one spill has occured and this was 2 years ago and now the fish are being restocked. alot of the water problems accur when the gas well interferes with there water for there homes. sincerely, justin case

    • dear ajsn you do have points about how we must save the ecosystem an i am a hunter too but you have to think about other perspectives. first natural gas is creating millions of jobs and keeping people keeping them off of welfare and unemployment supporting families and keeping taxes lower. if we did not have natural gas heating prices would skyrocket from oil to propane to electric. these are some of the points i felt i needed to bring up.

  7. We think that the streams around our community have changed from the gas wells. We think they have changed because last summer we heard rumors that we weren’t allowed to keep any fish from the Leroy Bridge and downstream. We weren’t allowed to keep and eat them due to gas well blowout. The water was affected from the frack water. They probably stocked less fish in the entire area because of this. Many fish were being affected and dying. Also their predators were being affected too. Due to the fish being contaminated, through bioaccumulation the predators are also being affected. It affects the whole food chain. The fish are being affected, then the raccoons and birds get the chemicals. Then the bigger predators are affected like the fox’s, bobcats, coyotes, eagles, and etc..

    We read the article “Sudden Death Of Ecosystem Ravages Long Creek.” The article stated that many residents were smelling awful dead smells coming from the creek. The residents went down to the creek and saw many dead species. The residents went farther into the investigation by bringing scientist and water chemical agents and the results came back with 161 dead species. Those species contained fish, mussels, salamanders, crayfish, and aquatic insects. The environment agencies are treating this creek like a crime scene.

    We read another article called “The Wilds?” They stated that the gas companies are taking over our land. They took 1/3 of our state game lands. They continue to ruin our beautiful PA landscape. They have been putting in gas pads and pipelines. They should stop destroying our beautiful mountain country. We should respect mother nature that was here before us and we should stop getting so excited about our financial impact of their economy. We should all wonder what will happen to the PA wilds if we don’t stop.

    • Dear CHS Boaters and Anglers
      The tragedy at Dunkard’s Creek has not been directly linked to the natural gas industry.See: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/environment/sudden-death-of-ecosystem-ravages-long-creek-358357/
      “An early and continuing focus of the investigation has been discharges from a mine water treatment facility located at Consol Energy’s Blacksville No. 2 mine in West Virginia.”
      And from the same article:
      “The state agencies now are looking at the possibility that someone has illegally dumped drilling wastewater into the creek to avoid the expense of complying with laws governing its disposal. The water must be treated in Pennsylvania or injected deep underground in West Virginia.”
      Although the death of multiple species is a major concern, I am not sure if the blame belongs to the gas industry. Have you read any other articles or reports that confirm this? If so, please share your resources and thoughts.

      • Maybe I am misinterpreting something I read in the article about Dunkard Creek and am misinformed, but I agree with CHS Boaters and Anglers that drilling has killed this stream. This stream was found with high levels of TDS and chlorides which indicated gas and oil drilling wastewater. It is not the lone cause of the kill but it is most certainly a big contributing factor.

        -Anglers United

    • I think that the beginning of your blog is opinionated. I don’t think that rumors are a good basis for information. However, I never heard of this disaster so I can’t give you an accurate assessment. From experience of writing this blog I often found that many sites were very biased. Sometimes you have to dig deeper to find state sponsored sites. It’s very hard to assess what is true and what isn’t on the internet! Good job with your blog, you seem very passionate about your topic.

      Ima Fisher.

  8. Dear Mike Vick,
    I think you are full of it. Deer will still settle on gas well pads that are not as active. You need to get your facts straight!
    Thank you,
    Bobby Bouché

    • Dear; Bobby Bouche
      You obviously don’t hunt. So you need to get your facts right. I bet you don’t even know what a deer is 😛
      PA Hunter,
      Mike Vick

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